2010.08.21, 10:20 PM
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EMUracing
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I just finished disassembly, installed bearings and ball diffs, and alloy knuckles up front. At first glance, the system looks pretty complicated, but after playing with it for a little, its not too bad. There are a few things that I like, and dislike about the design.
Pro:
-Camber adjustment on the fly
-toe adjustment with one part
-little slop on lower arm
-sturdy feel
-longer arms, with lower pivot than SAS. Should increase roll center a little, and provide more mid cornering than SAS. It looks like you should be able to shim the upper arm pivot to raise the upper arms and lower the roll center.
Con:
-upper arm has more slop than I would like
-have to half disassemble to adjust ball diff tension, SAS one hinge screw gives access to Kyosho adjustment bolt
-downstop limiter access through upper plate is small, and you need to use very thin tool (one that comes with it works fine, but if you want to use a better tool, you may need to drill a larger hole).
This is an initial over-view, I still need to get the car track tested, but overall I like it. Is it worth $90? I cant answer that yet. Its nice to see Kyosho produce something new for the AWD, and I hope they continue development into the AWD, and develop a better balanced chassis with lower CG and similar suspension in the front.
(pics will come later)
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2010.08.22, 12:58 AM
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Ive been messing with mine for a couple of days. Im liking it alot (with the PN A-arm front). No chatter, built well. Hopefully ill have pics also soon.
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2010.08.23, 05:05 PM
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Anyone get the bearing for 98? 5mm x 8mm x 2.5mm right?
Also, what type of grease are you using for the shocks?
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2010.08.23, 06:44 PM
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MINI-Z BODY NUT
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pfcparts
Anyone get the bearing for 98? 5mm x 8mm x 2.5mm right?
Also, what type of grease are you using for the shocks?
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Havent seen the bearing for sale yet. Didnt really see the size of it either. Hopefully your right.
Grease, i have been using Losi brown grease or Davey G. jade jizz.
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2010.08.23, 07:16 PM
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EMUracing
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I thought the kit would come with the bearing I assume that it would be smaller than the diff bearings. Have to take a look when I get home and see if there is anything in the manual...
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2010.08.23, 07:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pfcparts
Anyone get the bearing for 98? 5mm x 8mm x 2.5mm right?
Also, what type of grease are you using for the shocks?
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Best stuff to use is CST Grease/oil in the 5000-20000 range. By having different thickness oils you can fine tune and find different degrees of consistent dampening under different track/temperature/grip conditions. Take advantage of this and use it as a tuning aid properly because it is one of the 2 most important aspects of tuning a shock type suspension, along with the springs you chose. Silicone based lubricants are used predominantly for sliding type shock suspensions because they have a way of attaching themselves to the surface of the suspension parts and not only smooth out operation, but actually control oscillation much better.
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2010.08.24, 10:53 PM
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CT, Thanks for clearing that grease question up
and inadvertently answering another post I had.
I've been using K ball diff grease and it works ok.
Probably try out some of the different K gear greases
I have left over.
The manual lists the bearing as BRG002. I
did a search and it is a 4 piece bearing set
they offer for the lazer 5 at those specs
above. Will try to find my own alternative
as I had planned an 98mm awd.
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2010.08.24, 11:35 PM
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No 98mm spur gear bearing in the kit? I mean, I know I'd upgrade mine almost immediately , but still, no spur gear bearing???
Thanks for all the info guys
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2010.08.25, 08:54 PM
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2010.08.25, 10:01 PM
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lfisminiz, does putting in MR-03 board makes the car runs straight?
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2010.08.26, 04:36 AM
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lfisminiz, does putting in MR-03 board makes the car runs straight?
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It seems straight on my home track. Ill know more when i get to the bigger race track. Giving the fact that its still the same servo, i would say doing work to the servo/arm/gear area would help the most. Make sure its not rubbing/binding somewhere.
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2010.08.26, 05:47 AM
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Looks really pretty Larry & I like the holes idea which I may attempt for max cooling.
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2010.08.26, 08:16 AM
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Quote:
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lfisminiz, does putting in MR-03 board makes the car runs straight?
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when putting a 03 board on an o2 servo youneed to change the gain setting from 2 to anywhere from 7-10 depending on ur driving prefence... you can do this one of three ways... through the ko computer program.. the ko handheld programmer or through the new ko dds eurus remote controlle with supplied module that comes with it...
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2010.08.26, 10:20 AM
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My 03 conversion has been running fine with just the drive freq changed
car looks awesome larry, I got the orange chassis but no time to play yet
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2010.08.26, 10:41 AM
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cool, thanks for the replies...
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