2009.09.23, 12:16 PM
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EMUracing
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Atomic Tire Warmer for Racer and AWD
I just got news that Atomic will be releasing a tire warmer. This is good news for people that race in cool environments, I know it will help me out a bit.
It will run off of 12v from what I have heard.
I will let you guys know more as I find out about it.
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2009.09.23, 12:18 PM
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cool(or hot)im up for getting one
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2009.09.23, 03:58 PM
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iTomCash
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Your tires wont maintain the heat it provides, I imagine... So if anything, through the race won't your handling become worse?
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2009.09.23, 04:10 PM
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I don't see the need of tire warmer but I must give atomic props for finaly releasing something in mini-z line. It has been a while. Thanks!!
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2009.09.23, 04:18 PM
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If you tune it right I suppose you could get yourself a couple tenths for the first few laps... but these tires don't heat up that much anyways so you're really splitting hairs with a tire warmer at THIS scale. Cool transplant from 1/10 touring though.
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2009.09.23, 05:05 PM
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as said above, good idea, but let's face it, they ain't gonna stay warm!
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2009.09.23, 05:18 PM
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On regupol with rubber tires the front tires temperature heats up 8 degrees celsius (I think about 14 degree fahrenheit). This happens in 3 laps at our track.
the start temp is about 22 degree celcius, and it ends up around 30 degree C after two laps. Any hotter than that doesnt happen unless you have a bad setup.
As for the rear tires they typically increase a little more. Around 10 degree C.
This was measured with a proffesional heat sensitive camera.
I dont see the need for tire warmers at all.
If anyone is interested I can share the data i got when i tested tire temp with regular front end, WTF, and A-arm also. The difference is absolutely there.
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2009.09.23, 05:47 PM
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Please Rune, send me the data... You have my email...
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2009.09.23, 07:36 PM
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EMUracing
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I see a need for the tire warmers. At my local track, the pits are near the entrance to the street, so it will get very cold in winter time. I tend to use harder tires than most people that I race with, so I hope that the tire warmers help me get good first laps, where I cant really push right now until the tires warm up.
I was thinking about working on a tire warmer before I heard about the Atomic product...
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2009.09.24, 07:57 AM
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Mini-Z Norway
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EMU
I see a need for the tire warmers. At my local track, the pits are near the entrance to the street, so it will get very cold in winter time. I tend to use harder tires than most people that I race with, so I hope that the tire warmers help me get good first laps, where I cant really push right now until the tires warm up.
I was thinking about working on a tire warmer before I heard about the Atomic product...
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Then I can understand the need for tirewarmers. How much running do you have to do before the tires are up to temp?
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2009.09.24, 12:21 PM
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EMUracing
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Typically its less than a minute before the race starts.
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2009.09.24, 12:43 PM
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Last night I ran atomic 8's in the rear, my first time running it and now I understand why you'd want to use a tire warmer. This tire has zero grip on the first lap but after few laps, the traction starts to come in.
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2009.09.24, 12:59 PM
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EMUracing
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I usually use ATM 8d rear and 40d front... So it takes about 5-10 laps until tires are fully up to grip. Which means you have to drive on the edge of traction on the starts, but later in the race, after tires come in, you have great traction while people with softer tires start to lose grip...
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2009.09.24, 01:04 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rune
If anyone is interested I can share the data i got when i tested tire temp with regular front end, WTF, and A-arm also. The difference is absolutely there.
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I think people would be very interested in the data. Can you post them here or email them to me too.
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2009.09.24, 01:54 PM
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heat
I've used tyre warmers before, but on my 1/10th and 1/14th. Didn't really work on the 1/14th, but they don't tend to with foam tyres, but almost everyone uses tyre warmers when racing on rubber tyres outdoors. Your tyres might cool down, but only to their peak operating temperature. So it will help for the first 3 to 4 laps on a big track, and probably the first 5 to 6 laps on a regular hfay track.
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