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Old 2004.12.09, 07:51 AM   #1
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Iwaver 02: Iwaver or Miniz hop-ups?

Iv been looking for a hopped up used MR or MM02. But with the Iwaver 02 now available I need some advice before ordering.

Which hop-ups would you recommend I install in the Iwaver 02 to make it competitive with the MR02? Looks like Iwaver has the pro motor, bearings & springs as hop-ups but the other parts are only replacements. Correct?

So which parts have you, or would you install in the Iwaver 02 to make it competitive with the MR02?

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Anyone know when the shop will have them?
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Old 2004.12.09, 11:22 AM   #2
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carbon fibre H-plate, bearings are necessary.
ball diff is also much preferred, but some drivers don't use them
a fast motor of coz, but i wouldn't choose the Xspeed pro.
i don't use dampers in my mr02's but most people do.
and of coz, the tires, atomic R10 F10/20 will let u run on any surface.

alloys parts are for strength, the way i do is change to alloy after the stock one breaks.
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Old 2004.12.09, 11:30 AM   #3
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i have all reasons to think that upgraded IW02 will be as good as MR02, given similar quality of electronics. After all, if you install the t-(H)-bar, ball diff, hotter motor, aftermarket springs and ball bearings, the only difference remaining is the batteries holder
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Old 2004.12.09, 12:02 PM   #4
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Parts that I feel should be upgraded on the IW02:
Differential - Kyosho MR02 Ball diff (best diff out)
Knuckles - Delrin at least... 3Racing makes a set with 3 camber options
Kingpins - I havent tried polishing the stock ones yet to see if they are smoother, but some nice steel pins would do good
lock nuts - Alloy with nyloc insert
Suspension - H-block upgrade (carbon/graphite), Friction disc damper/oil roll shocks, rear oil shock
Bearings - Quality shielded bearings (Iwaver bearings are decent, thats what I am going to use)
Tires - Nice soft tires that will match the wheels you use. 8d rear, 10d front. (15dR/20dF is good too)

I would suggest the wide wheels on a wide MR01 or normal MR02 body. If you get the IW02 RTR, I would suggest the CLK body. I think it handles the best, and can use even more offset wheels than what comes on the IW02.

The knuckles on my IW02 do not slide smoothly on the kingpins. I would suggest getting better kingpins and knuckles. Michvin uses the 3Racing knuckles that I posted above, and they work well for him. They also give you the ability to adjust the camber for different track setups.

Most of these hop-ups are a priority. If you need to wait to get a part due to lack of funds, wait on the suspension (not H-Block) and motor mods. The Differential will be very noticable on the track, same for the bearings. Lug-nuts are a must... after a little time, the plastic ones dont stay on.

With these mods, the IW02 will be very competitive with a slightly hopped up MR02. Will cost about the same as a stock MR02, but will be faster. If you are a beginner driver, there should be no need for a faster motor yet, until you feel like you can go much faster. The stock motor has more than enough speed for new drivers. I know that I made the mistake of swapping out the motor first to a fast motor when I first started. All that did for me, was attract me to the wall more.

A real important question to ask... what will you be using this car for?

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Old 2004.12.09, 12:12 PM   #5
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Parts that I feel should be upgraded on the IW02:
Differential - Kyosho MR02 Ball diff (best diff out)
Knuckles - Delrin at least... 3Racing makes a set with 3 camber options
Kingpins - I havent tried polishing the stock ones yet to see if they are smoother, but some nice steel pins would do good
lock nuts - Alloy with nyloc insert
Suspension - H-block upgrade (carbon/graphite), Friction disc damper/oil roll shocks, rear oil shock
Bearings - Quality shielded bearings (Iwaver bearings are decent, thats what I am going to use)


The knuckles on my IW02 do not slide smoothly on the kingpins. I would suggest getting better kingpins and knuckles. Michvin uses the 3Racing knuckles that I posted above, and they work well for him. They also give you the ability to adjust the camber for different track setups.

Most of these hop-ups are a priority. If you need to wait to get a part due to lack of funds, wait on the suspension (not H-Block) and motor mods. The Differential will be very noticable on the track, same for the bearings. Lug-nuts are a must... after a little time, the plastic ones dont stay on.
Right now I've just got bearings, kyosho ball diff, lock nuts, z speed on my enzo 02...the ball diff and bearings are a must.

While this may not be a hop up per se...nimh batteries!
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Old 2004.12.09, 12:16 PM   #6
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I dont have my Kyosho Ball diff yet. I still need to order it. The stock IW02 diff isnt too good. Kyosho stock diff is better (which is the case in the 01 as well). I know michvin heard me grinding some gears with my IW01 the last time we were at the track.
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Old 2004.12.09, 12:23 PM   #7
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I dont have my Kyosho Ball diff yet. I still need to order it. The stock IW02 diff isnt too good. Kyosho stock diff is better (which is the case in the 01 as well). I know michvin heard me grinding some gears with my IW01 the last time we were at the track.
I'll give you my 02 kyosho diff if you want...should be a temporary improvement till you get the K ball....
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Old 2004.12.09, 12:33 PM   #8
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I'll give you my 02 kyosho diff if you want...should be a temporary improvement till you get the K ball....
Thanks for the offer. I am ordering the K Ball diff today. If you want, bring it with you on Sat, ill take it for a spin I am going to add the bearings today. I am going to order a K Ball Diff, H plates, 3Racing knuckles and kingpins from RCstation. They have a great price on the ball diff, so its almost like all of the other parts are free (compared to the price the ball diff is elsewhere).
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Old 2004.12.09, 12:43 PM   #9
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omg, what are those prices?????
How are the shipping costs?
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omg, what are those prices?????
How are the shipping costs?
I just finished placing the order, $6.84 shipping total. (snail mail) Total came to ~$55. For EMS it was $15.71 shipping.

Heres what I ordered, I think my IW02 will be quite nice once they come. I ordered both MM and RM H plates (incase we get the Enzo team car (and my bro can use them on his Mclaren as well)).

Kyosho Ball Diff Set for Mini-Z MR-02
3Racing Graphite H Plate For Mini-Z II (MM) Chassis (Soft, Medium, Hard)
3Racing Steering Block For Mini-Z II
3Racing King Pin For Mini-Z II
3Racing Graphite H Plate For Mini-Z II RM Chassis

I have ordered from this site a few times already. They do not have as many parts as I would have liked (I would have ordered a disc damper if they had it).

edit: doh, I forgot to order lock nuts... I still have a few that are not in use, but every time I order from there, I usually pick up a set or two. The price on them is amazing.

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Old 2004.12.09, 01:34 PM   #11
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That site for some reason is always REALLY slow. I don't get it. But they seem to have the few DTM x4s left. I think it would be fun to have a better than xmods 4wd that I could use for drifting. the also ahve a few other things no one else does. I may have to order an x4 after the holidays and see what I can add without adding to shipping.
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Old 2004.12.09, 05:45 PM   #12
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Wow Thanks.

I want to race this car at a LHS. The track is 20 x 40. three tight corners and then a 40' straightaway on low store carpet. I know it is not the most competitive group of guys & cars. But I know they are running foam tires & hot motors.

I need to read this post again. & try to fiqure out which parts I can afford & where to get them. Wheres the best place to order these hop-ups?

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Wow Thanks.

I want to race this car at a LHS. The track is 20 x 40. three tight corners and then a 40' straightaway on low store carpet. I know it is not the most competitive group of guys & cars. But I know they are running foam tires & hot motors.

I need to read this post again. & try to fiqure out which parts I can afford & where to get them. Wheres the best place to order these hop-ups?
You can get most of the parts here at the shop. There are quite a few other sites you can goto, the site I ordered my parts from is RCstation. Shipping will take a while because it is from Asia, but I dont mind if I save a bunch. The shop here will get you your parts pretty fast.
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Old 2004.12.11, 12:24 PM   #14
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carbon fibre H-plate, bearings are necessary.
ball diff is also much preferred, but some drivers don't use them
a fast motor of coz, but i wouldn't choose the Xspeed pro.
i don't use dampers in my mr02's but most people do.
and of coz, the tires, atomic R10 F10/20 will let u run on any surface.

alloys parts are for strength, the way i do is change to alloy after the stock one breaks.
the Xspeed pro is a very good motor for the iwaver or a mzr running a turbo
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the Xspeed pro is a very good motor for the iwaver or a mzr running a turbo
xspeed vs the shops fet motor vs the PN racing so4 vs the atomic (just saw them in the photos) and...pick one and if I include NML pick 2
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