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Old 2019.11.04, 10:21 PM   #91
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We also run both CW and CCW on the same day, usually on the weekend vs on a weekday after work so we have extra time.
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Old 2019.11.05, 07:48 AM   #92
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We run on Saturday. I setup from 10-11:30am and practice from noon-about 2pm. Then run qualifying and mains fro 2-5pm for both directions, all classes there is interest for. As we do not have time to separate classes, i have to carefully stage the qualifying and mains so that those running multiple classes do not end up doubled up in a main. Itís a little more complicated but it allows us to run multiple classes together. We could for example have a slower drivers in Open class running with mid level Racer drivers due to qualifying position which is perfectly fine as they arenít being over-run when qualifying does itís job correctly. When you group by relative skill, speed does necessarily matter. Where it gets prickly is someone in Open class that is slower due to poor consistency (ping ponging around the track) which puts Racer class at a disadvantage because the faster car has become a challenging road block to more consistent but slower cars. You just canít convince some people that slower is faster though
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Old 2019.11.05, 05:41 PM   #93
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FYI I ran my GLF-1 in open class again for the October round. The main upgrades on the car compared to September were some custom brass plates for weight (added approximately 30 grams), and for fronts running PN KS medium rear tires on 0 offset rear wheels, trued to about 23mm. These had noticeably more grip than the GL 23 degree fronts.

The car was not perfect as I was still playing with front shocks and side dampers springs, but it was really fast. It was easily 0.1s or more faster than my racer class 3500kv car, and hit several 3.4s laps. I had to run with 2 other racer class cars since we ran out of time, so there were several collisions which caused the cars to wedge together, otherwise should have turned more laps than racer class.

I did do a 50 lap time trial later and actually hit a 3.3s lap(!) and overall ended up a few seconds faster than my racer class car. Unfortunately did not do an official run with the 5250kv open car for comparison, but I did run the 5250kv on this layout last weekend and was only able to hit 3.4's as well so very similar to the GLF-1.

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Old 2019.11.06, 07:49 AM   #94
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we also run all the races in the same night. Typically we run our HFAY first just to make sure we get it in. We run 1 practice race and 1 main. then change directions and do it again. this gets us all in with both the open and stock classes. Some of our racers can't make it until about 8pm on the night we races so it gets real tight sometimes.
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Old 2019.11.06, 11:48 AM   #95
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FYI I ran my GLF-1 in open class again for the October round. The main upgrades on the car compared to September were some custom brass plates for weight (added approximately 30 grams), and for fronts running PN KS medium rear tires on 0 offset rear wheels, trued to about 23mm. These had noticeably more grip than the GL 23 degree fronts.

The car was not perfect as I was still playing with front shocks and side dampers springs, but it was really fast. It was easily 0.1s or more faster than my racer class 3500kv car, and hit several 3.4s laps. I had to run with 2 other racer class cars since we ran out of time, so there were several collisions which caused the cars to wedge together, otherwise should have turned more laps than racer class.

I did do a 50 lap time trial later and actually hit a 3.3s lap(!) and overall ended up a few seconds faster than my racer class car. Unfortunately did not do an official run with the 5250kv open car for comparison, but I did run the 5250kv on this layout last weekend and was only able to hit 3.4's as well so very similar to the GLF-1.
You really have that thing dialed in. I have not been able to get it to run as fast as my open 5500kv car yet. I need to spend some time adjusting it.
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Old 2019.11.06, 02:23 PM   #96
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You really have that thing dialed in. I have not been able to get it to run as fast as my open 5500kv car yet. I need to spend some time adjusting it.

Fantastic performance out of art4242ís GLF-1 & clearly right tuning direction taken adding weight and looking into better front tire options. Thanks for the tips.

I have the opportunity to test & tune mainly on the race day itself so will continue running the GLF in the open regardless of my performance levels which most likely continue falling short of my GT chassis open cars but not worried about that.

My Octoberís GLF was bone stock with only about 8 grams added behind the battery and also the 2nd track day with the carÖfor this months race car will have a few more tuning items added to the package. looking forward to finding out if those will result in any improvements.
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Old 2019.11.06, 06:18 PM   #97
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Fantastic performance out of art4242ís GLF-1 & clearly right tuning direction taken adding weight and looking into better front tire options. Thanks for the tips.

I have the opportunity to test & tune mainly on the race day itself so will continue running the GLF in the open regardless of my performance levels which most likely continue falling short of my GT chassis open cars but not worried about that.

My Octoberís GLF was bone stock with only about 8 grams added behind the battery and also the 2nd track day with the carÖfor this months race car will have a few more tuning items added to the package. looking forward to finding out if those will result in any improvements.
Yep, it takes a while to get it tuned and took me a few hours and still didn't get it perfect. After installing the optional screw adjustable front shocks and screw adjustable side dampers, I'm finding that they are very sensitive and even a 1-2 turn difference from left to right will result in noticeable handling asymmetry, especially the side dampers.
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Old 2019.12.03, 05:14 PM   #98
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Are results for S28 final? Excited to share season results with the club members! Looks like I placed 15th right now which is fantastic! I was aiming for top 25 so achieved my goals for S28 and looking to push back up into top 10! I rarely finished in top 10 before but has always remained my goal to end the season in the top 10. Given the talent on board HFAY, I feel that's a challenging goal
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Old 2019.12.04, 08:15 AM   #99
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Are results for S28 final? Excited to share season results with the club members! Looks like I placed 15th right now which is fantastic! I was aiming for top 25 so achieved my goals for S28 and looking to push back up into top 10! I rarely finished in top 10 before but has always remained my goal to end the season in the top 10. Given the talent on board HFAY, I feel that's a challenging goal
I believe they are final, I haven't heard about any clubs not submitting their times that have ran.
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Old 2019.12.04, 01:51 PM   #100
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Great season of close scoring battles from round to round on all sections of the chart. with more drivers getting their cars figured out for the CCW races I suspect season 29 will be even more competitive . Since November round at Malibu Mini-Z happen to fall on one of the coldest days of the year it was counter intuitive that the traction and consistency of the track surface was likely the best I can remember since the beginning of season 28 , that and running different front tires for the first time was the difference maker for both me and Bobbyz having a very strong round and with close competition in toe also the difference maker in the final standings, in short looks like it came down to the last round. In our club we still have a little ways to go with our Open class set ups but hoping we can bring it next season.
Also a big shout out to club OLR, the uncontested Kings of CW (most likely CCW too, haha)

Looking forward to season 29
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