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Old 2014.09.06, 12:57 PM   #46
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now just leaves the buggy and F1...
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Old 2014.09.06, 08:54 PM   #47
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Kyosho has just announced the MA-020 VE
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About time, many of us have been running a VE AWD since the brushless was released.
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Old 2014.12.21, 07:23 PM   #48
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brian,
any updates on integration of brushless into HFAY?
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Old 2015.01.03, 10:41 AM   #49
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this is going to be interesting.. same class? some of our guys have custom VE AWD, some have the new VE AWD, and some have the Atomic AMZ as well.
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Old 2015.01.05, 09:22 AM   #50
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I have included them, I've limited them to the PN 5500KV and Atomic 5000KV motors. I have left the gearing open as in my testing with my brushless MR-03 I couldn’t even match the speed of my brushed car even running the same gearing. The brushless might have a higher top speed but not really usable on the track, also if you gear to high you simply don’t have the speed exiting the corners thus costing lap time.

We’ll see how it goes this season and adjust things as we need to.
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Old 2015.01.05, 11:28 AM   #51
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Brian what about the Eco motors? I've been running the Blue Eco that it came with. $50 is a pricey buy in but I'm not convinced the upgrade is worth it on these smaller track.
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they are included, brian posted an update in the other thread.
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Old 2015.01.05, 03:14 PM   #53
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they are included, brian posted an update in the other thread.
I figured but it wasn't mentioned.
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Old 2015.01.05, 03:22 PM   #54
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Sorry, late to the party.

Are we saying that the listed brushless motors are now allowed in with 70t motors?

Or will brushless be a separate class?
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I figured but it wasn't mentioned.
I've edited the manual to include any brushless motor with a 5600KV or lower rating. We'll see how that plays out.
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all lumped in. no separate classes for reasons Brian has previously mentioned. it's not much different than now where you can choose from stock motor or 70t. now you have stock, 70t or =<5600KV. it will be an interesting season 19 for sure but in the end, it needs to be done in my opinion if all were left with are sports series and VE to choose from at retail. at least now one can buy a retail kit from either end of the spectrum and jump right in.

FYI, i'm sticking with 70t for similar reasons Brian mentioned in the other thread.
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Old 2015.01.05, 03:32 PM   #57
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I've edited the manual to include any brushless motor with a 5600KV or lower rating. We'll see how that plays out.
very excited for this season it's going to be very interesting

reminder, will need to update the website to accommodate the additional motor options so the results can be entered correctly.
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Thanks for explaining Ray.

Can't wait for Sat, throwing my hat in the ring with a brushless(PN 5500)

Should be interesting.
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Brushless update.

One of our other racers now has a brushless car, it’s setup very similar to mine with the same gearing (53/10) and the PN 5500KV brushless motor. Both of us will be running a Brushed and a Brushless Car in HFAY this season.

Although the cars are fast all the extra torque and the sensitivity of the throttle having more of an ON/OFF feel than a linear feel makes the cars a bit more difficult to handle and hold to the line I’d like to run with it on the smaller HFAY track. Even with the extra speed I’ve yet to match my best lap time with my brushed car, I’m within 2 tenths on the fast lap, but It’s the consistency that suffers with the speed. Even with the throttle high point turned down to limit the overall speed of the car, the throttle feel just isn’t to my liking yet to get the car fast and consistent like my brushed car is.

I’ll keep you all up to date as I tune in this car. I’m currently running the Mclaren 12C body (+3 Rear, +2 front) and my car weighs in at 172.6 grams.
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looking forward to Season 20, what do we do about all the mass production chassis from x-power, atomic and possibly PN?
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