2010.07.22, 01:30 PM
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2010.07.22, 01:40 PM
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PN Racing Team Driver
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they look great. it sure would be nice to have this for next weeks nj regional. just not sure i would get it and have time to tune it before next thursday. i did not preorder but did you have any extras if i did want one?
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2010.07.22, 03:01 PM
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I still have some left.
I can ship without hardware if you want them in time, the only thing is you need to find or cut a machined screw to 3mm for the front, the 4mm screws hit, otherwise I would send with this. For the mount screws, you want a 10mm screw.
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2010.07.22, 03:06 PM
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PN Racing Team Driver
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that should not be a problem. are they still 2mm diameter? i may place an order tonight and just put in the notes to send with out hardware. will thet go out tommorrow if i do this?
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2010.07.22, 03:20 PM
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For sure!
Yes, they are still M2 threads
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2010.07.22, 05:56 PM
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EMUracing
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CT, can you use a 4mm screw, and shim it up a little with a washer so it doesnt hit instead of needing a 3mm screw?
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2010.07.22, 06:06 PM
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Team Reflex
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EMU
CT, can you use a 4mm screw, and shim it up a little with a washer so it doesnt hit instead of needing a 3mm screw?
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I thought the same thing but once I put a 4mm screw through and looked at how much was out the bottom side of the tower bar it was obvious you would need to raise it way to much.
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2010.07.24, 11:20 AM
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Hi guys! Just to let you know all US- Pre orders shipped yesterday. The hardware came in at 2:00pm and I packed as many as I could before our shipping time. I managed to get all USA Pre-orders out though. The rest of the pre-orders will go out Monday, including US based dealers.
Enjoy them! And PLEASE leave us your impressions. A few of the team guys that got theirs in time for this weekend are already dropping their lap times!
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2010.07.26, 09:51 PM
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PN Racing Team Driver
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i have already spoke with ct but just to let everyone else know i got my tower bars today, and all i can say is wow. the quality is right on par with all other rr products and very easy to mount and change settings. i even feel that it took some of the slope out of the upper arm with out having to shim. i will get some track time tomorrow to see how 4* of caster feels, and will post more thoughts then. on a side note i also got the v2 diff gear and it is alot easier to setup than v1 and feels even smoother. cant wait to see what else rr has up there sleeves.
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2010.07.26, 10:51 PM
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Team Reflex
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chad508
i have already spoke with ct but just to let everyone else know i got my tower bars today, and all i can say is wow. the quality is right on par with all other rr products and very easy to mount and change settings. i even feel that it took some of the slope out of the upper arm with out having to shim. i will get some track time tomorrow to see how 4* of caster feels, and will post more thoughts then. on a side note i also got the v2 diff gear and it is alot easier to setup than v1 and feels even smoother. cant wait to see what else rr has up there sleeves.
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You'll like it once you hit the track, I just tried mine this past Saturday and it was great. The car was planted and very stable, it almost drove itself. I had never used that much caster but I was very impressed with the results. I also noticed the arms to be level with the ground aswell, you actually get a neutral roll center with the tower bar and that makes a big improvment in itself.
All in all this is one of the best parts I have put on my 03's, and you get all the adjustment you could ever need from a 30 dollar part. This is a must have upgrade.
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2010.07.27, 11:02 AM
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I noticed more high speed corner grip with the kit.
Ran 1 deg camber 4 caster
How much are you raising your bar? 0.3 0.6 0.9mm
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2010.07.27, 11:17 AM
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White Knuckle Racing
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it looks like it in the pic but just wanna be sure... can i run this with the pn reverse kingpin setup?
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2010.07.27, 11:40 AM
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Team Reflex
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hpgod
I noticed more high speed corner grip with the kit.
Ran 1 deg camber 4 caster
How much are you raising your bar? 0.3 0.6 0.9mm
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I haven't had to raise it a all, if your car begins to traction roll then you should start adding shims under the tower bar. This will raise the roll center, its like running a slightly stiffer spring.
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Originally Posted by JuniorWKR
it looks like it in the pic but just wanna be sure... can i run this with the pn reverse kingpin setup?
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If your using the standard spring setup I beleive ct said you could use the tower bar but only on 2 degrees of caster. If you use more than that it will tilt the upper arm back too far and cause the spring not to seat on the arm properly.
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2010.07.27, 11:54 AM
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White Knuckle Racing
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thank you ... will check into it.. i think the combo will be pretty amazing...
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2010.07.27, 12:21 PM
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Matt's on top of it thanks.
Correct on everything. The reverse kingpin set-up should work in the 2 Deg Caster Setting. The high caster setting REALLY makes a difference though. The issue is not so much the spring not seating, but rather the arm hitting the front of the chassis. The high caster setting moves the arm quite a bit back, but again, it is a PROPER caster angle for a race car.
As a footnote, our upper arm pins need to be polished a bit to make them fit. They were designed to remove slop on the stock plastic front, so they are slightly over-sized. I used some fine grit 600 sand paper to take them down and then finished them with some White Stuff to get them to fit properly and to get a mirror-like finish. Kyosho stock pins and stainless steel pins are a direct fit though.
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