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Old 2008.11.16, 02:17 PM   #1
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Contemplating getting 2.4ghz

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im running stock radio with my mr02 and ive been pretty competitive but im wondering if the 2.4 will make my car and ability to control it better. Has anyone got the 2.4 and not seen an improvement or is it pretty much a given that 2.4 will be faster. what differences did you notice when you upgraded

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Old 2008.11.16, 09:01 PM   #2
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You'll definately notice a difference going from AM to 2.4ghz. The car has no twitch and responds much quicker. The only gripe most people have but get over is the reverse. It takes some getting used to but once you learn it's pretty easy and I hardly notice the difference.

When I go back and forth I realize just how quick the response is with 2.4ghz. And no antenna!

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Old 2008.11.16, 11:12 PM   #3
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hi jace1283

i suggest that you try one out... to feel the difference for yourself...
i wrote a review a while back... hope this helps

http://mini-zracer.com/forums/showth...ghz+asf+review

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Old 2008.11.23, 12:23 PM   #4
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thanks for responses. i ended up getting it and racing it this weekend. its great exept for the reverse driving me absolutely crazy. i read the whole thread, i guess i just have to get used to it. i think its retarded though, when i put it in reverse, go in reverse! why did they mess with that, im not gonna brake! love the no big antenna thing on the car and controller. the power supply post work great now too so i can plug the transponder into it. that lets me ditch the batteries taped in my roof
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Old 2009.01.04, 02:11 PM   #5
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so i've had 2.4 (kyosho controller) for a while now and i hate it. the reverse just sucks, you loose so much time. it's just not easy enough or consistent enough to be any good. also i cant put drag brake in because then it won't go in revers at all! also idk if its nimh im using or what but the controller dies on me after 5-6 races even with charged batteries. its like no product testing was done with this junk, use your freaking brain and some common sense. junk. some times i drive forward to bounce off a wall after a crash because thats faster than reverse but still slow. i get in far more crashed and of more severity because i dont know when it will go in reverse. one time another guy running it couldn't get it to go into reverse fast enough on the straight and he got whacked hard. his body fell off and lost the race. had he been running am he would have had plenty of time to reverse and get out of there. trash
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Old 2009.01.04, 02:17 PM   #6
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Jace, what controller are you using? If you have the EX-10 helios with 2.4 module I can help you set it up so the reverse won't bother you again.

I to had the same issue when moving to 2.4ghz so I know were you are coming from.
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Old 2009.01.04, 02:19 PM   #7
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no its the kyosho junk, i might get the helios sometime because this controller makes racing unpleasant
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Old 2009.01.04, 02:22 PM   #8
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no its the kyosho junk, i might get the helios sometime because this controller makes racing unpleasant
I felt the same way. I didn't like the KT-18, and the reverse would make is so I'd rather drive my AM car. Now that I have everything setup and working with my helios, I've actually converted all my cars, Racer, F1, Overland and my Pan Car to 2.4 now and I love it.
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Old 2009.01.04, 02:28 PM   #9
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I felt the same way. I didn't like the KT-18, and the reverse would make is so I'd rather drive my AM car. Now that I have everything setup and working with my helios, I've actually converted all my cars, Racer, F1, Overland and my Pan Car to 2.4 now and I love it.
thanks for the input, im usually stingy with spending money on mini-zs but i think i might order a helios tomorrow($280!), thats how frustrated i am, lol

can the helios do drag brake? my car rolls far to easily with kt18
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you can setup the drag brake, Look for a used helios with module, check ebay you'll be able to find one cheaper.

I've picked up a used one for $100, then you just need the 2.4 module.
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Honestly, you lose .5-1 second to the AM when using reverse. As far as I know, Helios won't help that either since thats how the car boards are designed. As far as battery life, I've used mine for probably 6 hours and it still works fine. Contact Kyosho and see if they might replace it for you or try higher cap batteries. Maybe hybrids due to their low idle discharge rate.
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Jace, what controller are you using? If you have the EX-10 helios with 2.4 module I can help you set it up so the reverse won't bother you again.

I to had the same issue when moving to 2.4ghz so I know were you are coming from.
Hey Brian,

Mind sharing the setting you have for reverse on your Helios. I'd like to try it out.
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Hey Brian,

Mind sharing the setting you have for reverse on your Helios. I'd like to try it out.
see my post here. http://www.saltlakemini-z.com/forum/...hp?topic=198.0

the trick is to set the ABS so you just hold the reverse on, then the ABS will wait the appropriate amount of time then kick in the reverse. it works really well and you don't have to worry about waiting and acting to fast, the waiting again.

Give it a try.
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So that minimizes the time it takes to reverse via TX, interesting.
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So that minimizes the time it takes to reverse via TX, interesting.
it doesn't remove the delay, but you set the controller to wait for the time, this way you aren't fighting it. because if you act to fast you have to wait again, and if you wait to long, well that just more time lost too.

I've had great sucess with it.
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