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Old 2009.12.22, 08:21 PM   #16
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What's expensive is not actually doing the threads, but adding the hex head. We had thought about making a slot for this reason, but this means that each kingpin has to go through an extra operation, vs just being made on a lathe.
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Old 2009.12.22, 08:45 PM   #17
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This is exactly what we considered doing when working out the design with Marcus, but space is at a premium and cost goes up 3-fold.

Another thing is up-stoke can be limited with different height spring cups, where with a nut, you would have to use spacers on the king-pin to do so (or different size nuts, which also increases cost). I figure, this ends up being as much work as just adding shims to increase pre-load. :P
fair enough.... how about an adjustable clip position...jus like a jet needle on a motorcycle carb.....and using the same clips from the diff?
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Old 2009.12.22, 08:56 PM   #18
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That's not a bad idea. But one thing I like about plastic clips is that they are SOOOOO easy to remove. The diff clips can be a pain in the butt. They would save space, but would make changes much harder. Isn't using shims easier?
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Old 2009.12.22, 11:10 PM   #19
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That's not a bad idea. But one thing I like about plastic clips is that they are SOOOOO easy to remove. The diff clips can be a pain in the butt. They would save space, but would make changes much harder. Isn't using shims easier?
Love the simple design.

I also like the plastic clips so much better than metal e-clips (like on the diff). Half the time I take off metal e-clips I end up bending them, losing them (as they shoot across the room), or drawing blood on my finger .

I agree plastic clips are the way to go as long as they are secure and have no chance of coming off in a race or high speed crash.

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Old 2009.12.23, 03:36 AM   #20
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Wow! That was a smart invention.
Cant wait to try it out.

No more flexing arms, springs that can pop out in a crash, and so easy to change setup.

What about a WTF3?
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Old 2009.12.23, 03:55 AM   #21
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cool design... and much cooler to use 02 stuff as well...
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Old 2009.12.23, 07:46 AM   #22
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Now cut the extra spring arm off the upper a arm and get even better bump performance by reducing the unsprung weight.

Great idea CT
Cannot wait to try in on the my 03 under the christmas tree
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Old 2009.12.23, 09:24 AM   #23
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i too like the simplicity used. it's a bonus that most parts are off the shelf

i look forward to trying this.
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Old 2009.12.23, 09:47 AM   #24
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Thanks Guys! Yeah, with the spring being on top, there is no need for heavier duty a-arm to prevent flexing. Plus, it will be VERY economical. Kingpins and delrin balls should be around 10-15 bucks TOPS!
Very nice!. Simple, economical, and not much added weight and it looks like it will be effective. Great work!!!
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Old 2009.12.23, 10:51 AM   #25
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Great work from reflex!
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Old 2009.12.23, 11:12 AM   #26
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Good work CT and Marcus -- I'd been trying to get a hold of some spare 03 pivot balls so I could stick 02 kingpins through them (essentially the same mod as you've done there), but now you've gone ahead and made the necessary bespoke part itself. Very nice. I just hope they are not gold-plated, but titanium-nitride coated. Gold plating isn't the right thing to do here for several reasons.
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Old 2009.12.23, 01:49 PM   #27
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That is brilliantly simple! Or simply brilliant! I love it when engineering and efficiency match themselves up.

I'm a fan and will be putting it on my MR-03.
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Old 2009.12.23, 08:04 PM   #28
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Oh YES!!! Definitely better! I will order this for sure... hopefully before Tekin.
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Old 2009.12.24, 02:59 AM   #29
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Amazing! I'm glad this is not a Front suspension kit with a $80 price tag and eight moving parts. I can afford five sets. One for myself; three for my enemies; the last one can be used for raffle.
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Old 2009.12.24, 03:03 AM   #30
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Thanks Sai!
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