Hfay bte #4

[briankstan]

Originally Posted by arch2b

I see we have not taken this to more appropriate threads.

Arch, if yo want to split this out it would be appreciated.

[hrdrvr]

Originally Posted by Mike Keely

My vote is to keep it the way it has been in the past. It is a big deal for us to run the BTE's. We have to pack everything up and take it to my work. Don't get me wrong, everyone has a good time but it is not just setting up a new layout and running the race. It ends up being one long race day for us. If you all end up doing more don't let us stop you but our normal space can not fit the BTE's in it. The BTE's are also one of the few times that we get to join two clubs to get together and run. Just my 2 cents.

I don't think this will overtake the regular HFAY series, and that's not what I am pushing for. I would just like to have an outlet to compete against you guys (or different willing participants) more often. Our track room can easily handle a 20x9 layout, and with our elevations I can go to something the equivalent of a 12x21. The BTE layouts are about as small as we would like to go, but we would like to do it as often as possible if it means racing with folks across the globe. I know a lot of clubs don't have the space to regularly set up BTE sized tracks, but the 2L series will still be there to accommodate them. The 2L series will still be the bread and butter of HFAY.

Originally Posted by Arahawak

While I think can also incoporate BTEs to say once a quarter or once every 2 months.

Ultimately, what we want is good sporting competition between clubs, both big and small across the globe. For sure, if the main man of HFAY agrees to it.

Once a quarter would be awesome IMO. It would give clubs that have smaller space a couple of months to arrange the space and time. It would give clubs that host other events time to schedule these races around them, and the clubs that dedicate to the BTE would have lots of time to get in good runs.

Every other month would give even more opportunities for people to compete against each other. I don't think it would effect the amount of participants too much, but it does become some what of a weight and balance thing. I would rather compete against 30 people 6 times a year than 40 four times, or 50 twice. I guess others may not agree.

I definitely don't think this will stray away from the philosophy of HFAY. It is all about running with people from all over the globe. All this will do is open more opportunities to do so.

Originally Posted by arch2b

I think we could do quarterly bte's. Your participation numbers are going to fluctuate wildly so they won't be necessarily as big when you have more of them. I highly doubt you will get everyone for all 4 simply due to club schedules, vacations, work, etc. I'm for it though. I wouldn't mind more opportunities.
I see we have not taken this to more appropriate threads.

Giving three months to run each of the four events seems like it would easily be worked in to typical club race schedules. There may be some sacrifice and overlap, but it could easily be worked in. It all comes down to whether people want to do it or not. If they want to, they will find a way. If they don't, they will find a reason not to. We used to do some sort of points series every winter. It's usually revolved around a specialty 70t class, like LM or pan. These cars would fit into the HFAY stock class, and could be submitted as such without straying from our regular series at all. We would just have to run it on the layout provided, and that's all. I know you guys do a lot of specialty class races. Any of them would fit into the rules of HFAY, as the HFAY rules are very liberal. Just run it on the preset layout and turn in your times, or don't. There won't be points riding on the line like there is in the series, so if you miss one, it's nothing lost except a ranking.

It's already in two different places and two different time frames with two different sets of people participating It would probably take a mod pooling it together in a common thread

EDIT: I see Brian commented while I was typing my mini-novel

[imxlr8ed]

Originally Posted by hrdrvr

I was typing my mini-novel

You?.... nahhhh...

You and EMU should get together and write the MiniZ bible, I'm sure it would be longer than the actual one.

I think my crew would be up for a quarterly HFAY BTE... kinda hard to convince them to show for a 2WL race. I know Larry would be there, Gasman would be back and I also have 2 or 3 other drivers waiting in the shadows to drive the Zs. I have drivers willing to race, but not so much for the travel anymore.

I'll be lurking to see if anything comes of this for sure...

[ACT]

Can I suggest polling.

HFAY BTE Weekly
HFAY BTE once every two weeks
HFAY BTE once every month
HFAY BTE once every two months
HFAY BTE once every quarter

.........

And clubs intersted to do so.

With numbers, Brian can decide.....

Lets bring the mini Z to the next level.

Regards

[arch2b]

polling is very inaccurate in general for this purpose. you will find you will get many time more responses from those that are not as committed to doing this vs. those whom you are targeting which skew the results. public polls are just that, public. to top it off, a vast number of club members simply are not active participants on the forum. trust me, in the past we used to vote on everything hfay and rarely did we ever get a majority of the club judges.

if someone else doesn't clean up this thread by tomorrow, i'll take a crack at it. this one was about bte #4 and it's results.

i know it's a hassle, but check out the history of posts in the hfay area. you will find much of this has been addressed in the past.