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Old 2015.01.01, 10:15 AM   #31
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2 prices on website 1 is 439 other is 578
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Old 2015.01.01, 11:14 AM   #32
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yes, two different kits.

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Product No.
XP-IDT-ULTRA
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X-POWER
Price
USD 578.00
Model Name
X-POWER IDT ULTRA
Quantity

Description
1. Dual Belt Transmission System
2. Four wheels drive
3. Carbon Fibre chassis
4. Carbon Fibre Upper Deck
5. Sensorless/Senseored ESC
6. LED Program Card
7. Sensored Brushless 5600KV Motor

8. Metal Gear Digital Servo
9. Four independent damper suspension
10. Easily adjustable camber,
toe in/out and all other fine tuning features
11. Li-Po battery (produced by third party manufacturer)
12. Clear Lexan shell
13. Gogolab receiver (produced by third party manufacturer)

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Product No.
XP-IDT-SPORT
Compatible Brand
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Price
USD 439.00
Model Name
X-POWER IDT SPORT
Quantity

Description
1. Dual Belt Transmission System
2. Four wheels drive
3. Carbon Fibre chassis
4. Carbon Fibre Upper Deck
5. Sensorless/Senseored ESC
6. Sensorless Brushless 6000KV Motor
7. Metal Gear Digital Servo
8. Four independent damper suspension
9. Easily adjustable camber,
toe in/out and all other fine tuning features
10. Li-Po battery (produced by third party manufacturer)
11. Clear Lexan shell
12. Gogolab receiver (produced by third party manufacturer)
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Old 2015.01.01, 11:46 AM   #33
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yes, two different kits.

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Old 2015.01.03, 10:31 PM   #34
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One more difference, ultra version is free shopping.
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Old 2015.01.04, 10:28 AM   #35
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Old 2015.01.04, 10:31 AM   #36
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Last picture is IDT compared with iphone 6, my friend sent me one more to compare with AWD

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Old 2015.01.04, 11:36 AM   #37
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From the last photo it is pretty clear that the wheelbase of the new chassis is likely 8mm longer than the Mini-Z. Pretty easy to hide with a lexan body since you can move the wheel openings to where you want them within reason and 4mm per end is easily in reason.

All in all a viable platform to possibly include in the fold but not mix with the true 1/27th scale. Beyond the shadow of doubt a lot of users spend prohibitively on the basic Mini-Z taking it way beyond what is needed or necessary for competition at most any sensible level. The price point to just get in the door with this platform will probably relegate it to novelty or speed freak cult groups with too much disposable income.

It is a beautiful piece of work and I take my hat off to X-Power for bringing it to market. X Power has come out with a beautiful line of chassis and durability products for the Z. I think the MRX is a work of art and should be pigeon holed into Mini-Z racing as a true modified platform but this new hybrid monstrosity should be kept separate. If Atomic can produce a 1/27th scale AWD platform that utilizes parts from their AWD line then a company with the expertise that X-Power has shown should be able to as well. That aside why bother? Let X-Power keep the RWD market and Atomic keep the AWD. It makes user choice easier as well with only two options instead of four. That way the market doesn't dilute itself to the point that neither makes any profit and development stops.

All of this is just my personal opinion but at a time that we as mini-Z racers are trying to find a way to create growth for the scale the burgeoning number of items being released is further factioning the scale as a whole.

Nuff said.
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Old 2015.01.04, 12:25 PM   #38
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judging by the comparison picture, i would think Mike is right. if they can squeeze it under a long wheelbase body, it may sneak in to existing classes. what is the track width? otherwise, different scale = new class. there are many clubs globally that already run aftermarket chassis classes as a standard and i'm sure this will fit right into programs like these. for more traditional club classes, it's a niche scale and likely just as hard to integrate as the buggy without having to jump ship in scale. great looking kit, no doubt. trouble will be, where to find a home for it in programs that are already struggling for participation and time and will it bump out 1/27 classes? given the overall cost being almost entirely up front vs. on the back end upgrades, it could have the potential to replace 1/27 classes in some clubs.

lets face it though, it doesn't have to be a sales success in the NA market if it does well in it's home market. as long as they have support from the target consumer, they will keep it active regardless of how it does in other markets. educated guess here but i doubt the NA market is key or crucial in any way to the product launch anyway.
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Old 2015.01.04, 12:36 PM   #39
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20mm longer wheelbase?
Curious to see a complete car with wheels together with a MR-03.

Both with and without body. Also pictures from top and front/ rear.

Looks to be a separate class car since it is that much bigger but maybe some more pictures can confirm something else?

That MA-020 is seems to be set at 94 mm wheel base
The IDT is set at 98 mm wheel base as like our MRX chassis so seems not true comparison.
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Old 2015.01.04, 01:06 PM   #40
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Not sure I am in agreement with your last comparison. it appears that the MA-020 chassis being used for comparison has some sort of X-Power chassis appendage installed on the rear.. I would like to see a comparison with a 98mm 03 chassis lined up evenly wheel to mounted wheel with either end of the X chassis. Then we can truly see any potential difference. Until then it is all sleight of hand. Just an illusion.
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Old 2015.01.04, 01:19 PM   #41
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Looks to me there is at least a 10mm difference..
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Old 2015.01.04, 07:11 PM   #42
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The width appears to be the same and the wheelbase looks to me about 100 mm but this is all speculation. I am preordering a kit and as soon as I get it will provide detailed comparison with the mrx and provide the specs. Regardless of what the specs are it uses the same lexan body that we use with the mrx so the wheelbase couldn't be that different.
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Old 2015.01.05, 10:49 AM   #43
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Wheelbase is 114mm
Width front is 76
Width rear is 78
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Old 2015.01.05, 10:55 AM   #44
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that's the thing with lexan touring cars, you can cut the wheel openings anywhere so you can cheat (play with) with the wheelbase easily. visual comparison can be deceptive as a result. it may use the same body but actually be vary different, as the just posted numbers suggest.

huge, what are these measurements based on or how were they taken?
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Old 2015.01.05, 01:57 PM   #45
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Almost Mini-Z Buggy size then (115mm wb), allthough narrower.
I hope the width on 76mm includes wheels?
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